so i found some old chemistry that was donated to us by a fellow in Livingston. there was a kit for e-6 and a kit for c-41 type process. i ended up having a used roll of film from my pinhole that was not going to be used so i tried to process the Kodak protra 400NC with the e-6 kit. this cross processed the image to come out a transparencies. this was the only image that came out. tried to do the same with the c-41 kit and a roll of e-6 film. it didn't work but I'm going to try both as straight developing as well. by the way, these developing kits are form 1977.